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Romanos's avatar

In 20 years people will entirely remember the Kenosha incident as evil wignat leader Kyle "Shoot his Nine in the Welfare Line" Rittenhouse as murdering 3 innocent black people. It's important to remain as a living witness to how events actually played out, because in the future, assuming we aren't all dead, we are going to have to carry forward history/culture as it happened. We have to be the keepers of the truth in all forms and that means keeping informed now.

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Oct 21, 2023
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Romanos's avatar

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Oct 26, 2023
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Mystic William's avatar

You speak Swedish too! Very impressive.

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mikegre's avatar

What is truly frightening is that one's whole world view is most likely based on false assumptions.

Not Shane's avatar

This is what happens when you don't buy the books

Alan Schmidt's avatar

It's also interesting that they will dredge up some long forgotten event and then ever media outlet will pontificate on the subject 24/7 like it was just a recent occurrence. See Emmett Till and the Tulsa Race riots.

There's something in human psychology they are manipulating that makes a sense of time hard to comprehend. While the events happened several generations ago, the constant sensory bombardment gives the feeling it just happened.

CS's avatar

Speaking of Tulsa, we need a conundrum cluster fact check of this black holocaust, as it’s used today.

SamizBOT's avatar

It was a race riot that started when ornery blacks initiated violence against a group of ornery whites (this is not contested). The whites responded with a mini-pogrom (these things happen) of the black area of town (which was not BLACK WALL ST, but rather a decently prosperous middle class community) and some people were killed. The more salacious tidbits, like people dropping bombs, are complete fabrications. The total deaths are exaggerated (we only know this for sure because we occasionally get hilarious headlines related to the never ending search for non-existent mass graves in Tulsa). It's not that interesting or important of an event, and you are entirely justified in responding to anyone bringing it up with Whataboutism.

Dave's avatar

I agree. I’d love to read this. Throw in Tawana Bradley, Jesse Jackson’s career, countless other people and events. So many absolute hoaxes and exaggerations blur into what is now “what really happened.”

Dave's avatar

“They have been using and perfecting these tactics for decades, perhaps centuries”

Centuries for sure. When we look at the origins of The French Revolution, we see it is the proto-communist revolution in its ideology and tactics.

This has been a long battle

ReadingRainbow's avatar

Would you prefer to live in pre-revolutionary France? I think establishing a Liberal society with universal rights is fine and dandy. It’s the corruption of these urges into backwards leftism that is problematic.

SamizBOT's avatar

I at one point transcribed this quote from Curtis Yarvin, from his first appearance on the venerable number one sexy show Caribbean Rhythms:

"Something people do with history which is, as you say, a cope, is they basically look at history they say 'well, up until such and such a point in time, history is the honest history. History as we know it, as we read it in wikipedia, as we read it in textbooks is the honest and true story of what went on.' It is as Ranke said, 'as it really was.' . . . But they realize that the narrative of the world they live in has diverged from the story; and so they ascribe a time, a date in the past at which this divergence must have happened. For example, for most conservatives . . . this date is somewhere around 1960. You will find that they think basically Kennedy is fine, Kennedy is ok, LBJ is bad, because he's a liberal, and then FDR is good . . . all of history before that completely converges with the mainstream track. This is an element of weakness, and there is simply no reason to think that the 20th century has anything like this shape or any [that any] period from which the observers in the contemporary intellectual world are not far enough from the observed narrative to be fully independent [has this shape]."

To his last point, he points out that it is possible for a modern historian to have a neutral view of something like the English Civil War, but the same is literally impossible for WWII owing to the culture in which he finds himself situated.

James R. R.'s avatar

Yes, applying our own experience from the present of how events are reported and go down in history has transformed my view of the past. My default assumption now is that anything that sounds like propaganda probably is, and to automatically doubt all historical narratives that are morality tales. This is one of the most important takeaways from here.

Frank Canzolino's avatar

Believe nothing. Trust no one. Murder had it right.

Scorn and ridicule are the only weapons we have to fight back against these people who lie. Use it...

Guy Dudebro's avatar

History is fake and gay.

Danimal28's avatar

Totally correct. Great post.