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Aug 26, 2023Liked by Conundrum Cluster

My husband, a country boy, h.a.t.e.d. this song. I still like it, but I am sorry Anthony allowed himself to be interviewed. He should have let his art speak for itself.

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As soon as this guy exploded out of nowhere I was warning people to be cautious and that received some angry feedback and then when the guy started with the "diversity is our greatest strength" stuff, I pointed it out again. It is nothing against the guy personally, but more a warning of the danger of chasing the latest fad.

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Aug 27, 2023Liked by Conundrum Cluster

In most cases I see this as potentially a form of "ketman" as described in The Captive Mind. When it's obvious you're not a liberal, but your career demands that you gain their approval, you might find yourself saying this to throw people off your scent. Centrists are eccentric and can maybe be won over and therefore tolerated in some organizations, but anyone right of center is irredeemable. And honestly, if it gets you into positions of authority to slightly shift the conversation rightward it may be worth sucking it up and just going for it

Chris Pratt is obviously a conservative, and he has to say this exact kind of stuff too so that he can keep acting in blockbuster movies instead of being relegated to Mel Gibson and Zahler films only (who are great but are effectively quarantined from pop culture)

Deftones also released an album a few years ago that opens with the line "I reject both sides in all of this" and again I think it's because liberal music critics sniffed out that the rest of the band members weren't a part of their tribe either after their guitarist went full anti-vax (among other things). They're a band that gets rave reviews in most publications and you don't want to let that go with an audience that isn't huge but has remained steady for a long time

Of course in these two cases, these are people navigating industries with far left gatekeepers. Country has its problems but Jason Aldean just took a culture war stand and was wildly successful. If there is any place to make a stand, it's country music

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Aug 26, 2023Liked by Conundrum Cluster

Having been ‘round some very famous people, one learns there’s no more destructive a force than fame. More so than the pain he sings about. Ya can’t have it both ways. If you want out, you can get out. Many have. Just say no and goodbye…but he won’t. Cause posting your song “trumps” singing it to the dogs and the trees.

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Aug 26, 2023Liked by Conundrum Cluster

the song is kitsch. I guess i'm happy to have my negative feelings about it retrospectively justified

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“I’ll tell you hwhat, those damn politicians in D.C. don’t know the power of what the American people are capable of with our diversity!”

God, he’s secretly a hicklib isn’t he?

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He is just a man. He may not know how to react. We don’t know his full story. I think we conservatives just get geeked out when someone puts our feelings in to a song. I’m old enough to remember when different races and political views could be accepting despite our differences.

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Cut Oliver Anthony some slack here.

His views are clearly stated in his song, and they have the potential to raise awareness and unify the public.

He is right to criticize the GOP-Neocon-World-Government Establishment hacks out on that debate stage ---- as they are NOT for the people, and directly help to protect the Election Fraud, Joe Biden's regime, and even vote for his bankrupt agenda -- which is also leading us to World War III itself.

The GOP is not America First

Fox News is not America First

Only the MAGA movement is America First, and that is something very, very separate from the GPO Establishment and these Rich Men north of Richmond.

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Aug 27, 2023·edited Aug 27, 2023

He probably doesn't want to deal with the hostility of the Left, so he gravitated to so-called "neutral ground" in his statements to keep them from burning his house down, or the FBI from flash-banging him and killing his dogs at 6 AM. It's called survival. Not all people are made of "Trump stuff". We knew he was a somewhat sensitive kid, didn't we ? So why be too disappointed in him when he turns out to be a *little* (not a lot) weak ? Frankly, he probably regrets saying anything at all, instead of just putting his songs on video, taking $40k a day, using what he needs, and giving the rest away. Fame is a bad drug.

Good post CC. It shows you're tired of the continuous string of disappointments of the Right. But fighting the devil is a lot like trying to run the 100-yard dash. In quicksand. With lead boots. It takes A LOT of persistence. So take the victories when they happen, don't get too down when they don't. Keep God in all things, and endure to the end.

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im conservative (no republican) and i didnt think of the song as political except to say that he was speaking for all working people as well as poor and that ALL ESTABLISHMENT across the globe dont give a damn about anyone except themselves and power/money. WE NEED TO STOP FIGHTING EACHOTHER AND LET A SONG LIKE THIS BRING US TOGETHER TO FIGHT THE PEOPLE THAT WANT US DEAD

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Trump gave us:

1) Shilling for the Platinum Plan

2) Shilling for Israel

3) Promised "American Dream Plan" (amnesty) for Hispanics

4) No wall

5) No insurrection act during the George Floyd riots

6) No ban on H1BS which he promised after using laid off tech workers as props for campaign rallies

7) No convictions of Hillary Clinton or any of the democrats who are convicting him now

8) No "stop the steal" despite a massive grift, shaking his supporters upside down for any spare change to fuel his legal defense

Yet your main problem is with just some random country singer who cucked to the media after he made it big overnight with lyrics that resonated with white America His personal politics and wanting to distance himself from MAGA matter far less than the actual song itself and the fact that it went viral due to strongly resonating with middle America for giving elites the finger.

Because he didn't join MAGA and shamelessly shill a man who constantly betrayed his own supporters is what we need to focus on, not the actual failed promises of people in power like Trump. This is why so many figures on the right are considered nerds and above all losers who normal people do not want to associate with. You are focused on the completely wrong problem here. We will start winning by actually holding grifters to account who promised us real, tangible victories, not by obsessing over one guy with a good song failing to join a political grift.

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Wow, yeah, wouldn’t want to unite the country that’s for sure. If you don’t know what Anthony knows: there’s a uniparty, you’re the normie

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Your line about how it should be easy enough to just admit he's pandering to or at least writing from the perspective of the right really hits home. Because insisting he isn't just comes off as lying. Like when Chris Ray Gun declared he never actually cared about politics after building his career off of taking strong political stances. I can't stand someone lying to me as if they think I was just completely stupid.

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Aug 30, 2023·edited Aug 30, 2023

Just say it. He hates the right because MSNBC told him to, but he's smart enough to be terrified of the left.

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I think some conservatives are hung up on the fact the song has a plaintive tone and is not triumphalist. Narcissists hate that. Much ado about nothing. Stop obsessing over small things. This is a win. Songs exist to evoke emotion...if they fail at that it makes no difference what else they do. Ted Nugent never wrote such a song. This one works and it isn't championing the cabal's agenda.

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