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Noel's avatar

This is very refreshing, especially when you compare it to the amount of "foreign investment" activities that I've heard from multiple people in this sphere (i.e. we need Thought Leaders to form counter elites by going to college in foreign countries and create livelihoods there). Even if it's possible, it's something that's only feasible to a micro-minority of people, and most discussion on things like this assumes that the U.S. is doomed and that we should be working very hard on life boats while everyone else suffers.

I can't tell you how many jobs there are out there for refugee resettlement and immigration legal advocacy. The other side understands what you're saying much better than most of us do.

Ace's avatar

Get this to Commander Miller asap. $1.2B in funding for “Americorps” should be redirected to a pilot. Corporation for National and Community service that implements Americorps can be rebranded and new leadership can take over drawn from the military with a military ethos. Roll this out in a city like Memphis that already coordinating federal and local resources.

Belte's avatar
Dec 6Edited

I completely support and affirm this proposal. These types of bold Trumpian projects will help show the younger generations of our sincere wish for their success. Also, the aesthetics of that picture with the military in front of the Bass Pro Shop temple is straight out of Stargate. We need and deserve this!

Alex's avatar

The Conundrum Cluster Conservation Corps

Gray's avatar

As an unemployed, broke, competent young man, this sounds pretty good.

Undefined's avatar

Per my comment, working in this space even for a short period of time quickly made me employable and not broke! Even if you don't make a career out of it (I didn't), it will set you on a better path if you're trapped in a holding pattern.

Work in current conservation corps isn't glamorous, but can be very interesting depending on what path you choose - it's also a great way to get your foot in the door on a wildland fire crew, which in my opinion is a great option for people who want to perform a valuable public service but dont necessarily want to commit to military service/law enforcement/etc.

Cooper's avatar

Sherman was so real for that quote, I'm cracking up. Great article too!

Undefined's avatar

Joining a Conservation Legacy crew and then a wildland fire crew is directly responsible for me becoming a productive member of society. Before working those seasons, I was adrift - I felt trapped in a food service job that didn't push me intellectually and spent my time between shifts pouring alcohol on my brain to cope with my lack of upward mobility.

The Conservation Legacy program taught basic outdoor labor skills e.g. here's how you run a chainsaw, drive with a trailer, perform basic record keeping skills, etc; it payed next to nothing but rewarded you with a scholarship upon completion of the program. The wildland fire crew continued that trend of upskilling, basic leadership tasks, etc - no scholarship, but much better pay. Between the two of them, it was enough to break me out of the cycle I was in and go make something of myself - I had dried up quite a bit, had a little money in my pocket and some funding for higher education.

It's one of my regrets that I didn't know about those options sooner - I would've loved to spend my late teens and early twenties doing just that; unfortunately in my mid 20s the pressure to join the 4HL was too strong. Even as they exist now, they're a great opportunity for young people who love the outdoors and need direction.

That being said, they're is definitely huge room for improvement.

First, Conservation Legacy is shot through with pinkos, real ideological leftist freaks - some of whom hate to see young people get a little rambunctious. There's absolutely no reason that conservation should be ceded to left-wingers. It should be staffed by old salty dog NCO types, not Prius driving pronoun affirming patagonia nutjobs.

Second, conservation outside of wildland fire is seriously underfunded - I made 300 bucks a week after tax running saws, dropping trees, and performing prescribed burns. Each crew member got a 40 buck stipend PER WEEK for food; housing was provided, but you were in a tent on a hitch most of the time anyways. You need to make it worth someones while, otherwise you're only going to get true believers who are necessarily a small pool of people.

Honestly, that can be said about a lot of public services - I had similar thoughts working in EMS (education payed for thanks to my conservation season) - I think there are plenty of smart young people who desperately WANT to do right by their country and community but are practically forced into other employment by poor pay and conditions.

Undefined's avatar

There should be recruiters visiting every high school and college in america for these types of programs - if anything, it helps the nation identify adventurous citizens with a sense of initiative. A 6 month commitment with food and housing provided for is much easier to find bodies for than a military contract I imagine.

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Re: Mississippi scores and return to phonics. Steve Sailer points out they are also holding back 3rd graders that would benefit from another go versus being pushed through, to positive results.

If immigration is clamped down on, H1-Bs halted, the biggest barrier to growing wealth is the specter of Affirmative Action/DEI/HR. If there was a fair path to qualify on merit does anyone doubt there are plenty of young men who could be directed to quality private sector and (productive) government jobs?

Phyllis's avatar

Great article, off topic but I was just listening to your true detective episode again which reminded I found the actor for Velcoros chud loser son on instagram and he’s now a solbrah esque looksmaxxer. What’s going on man

Chris's avatar

How long is the draft for your review of the thing?

Nixonsdaydreams's avatar

It is a great idea to get buy in from young people and a program to make cities safer or repair our aging infrastructure. A bold plan with strong leadership goes a long way for those without much direction with how poor the hiring process has become in recent years. This would interest President Trump as a developer revitalizing the major cities using the new CCC to root out the longtime rot and show that decay is a choice

Lostworld's avatar

We had something similar down here relatively recently. Green Corps(1997-2003) targeted long term unemployed young people. At the time Australia’s youth unemployment rate was shockingly high. The left spent years attacking it, and its successes were buried under mountains of biased media coverage. Nevertheless, you can see how it as a concept percolated through society as it sparked similar programs across all three levels of government (local, state, federal). Both sides still gravitate towards such policies because the concept of ‘nation building’ hasn’t died here yet: https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/fapa_ctte/estimates/bud_1415/pmc/pm34_att26.pdf

Buttertooth's avatar

How can we get Vance or his Chief of Staff to read this and internalize it? Can all of us just spam his every X post with this link until it's confirmed that he's read it?

Dave's avatar

Excellent 'Grove.

I think CCC has been needed for as long as I can remember, graduating with a Math degree in '08 to work retail and move furniture for a few years wasn't wasted exactly, just could have been oriented towards a better purpose - many such cases. This could be a great avenue to guide young men back to industries hit hard by immigration, home building, trucking, or even IT, as part national infrastructure.

Urban renewal could provide opportunities to reclaim houing for CCC service in almost a colonial type arrangement - think The Ghost in the Darkness set in modern Baltimore.

Romanos's avatar

We need to reform AmeriCorps and make it much more robusf

Zap Rowsdower's avatar

This would not be the worst thing the government could spend money on, but it would be absolutely savaged by the press. Every single mis-step by anyone would be a major national news story, and the cost would be repeatedly emphasized even though it would be a drop in the bucket. I would rather kill the H-1B program altogether, subsidize trade school tuition and use tariffs in a targeted and intelligent way instead of arbitrarily or as a bargaining tool.